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Interview of Markos Moulitsas
(september 2005)

Markos Moulitsas, nicknamed Kos, is the author of Daily Kos
(dailykos.com), the 3rd largest (according to Technorati) and one of the most influential progressive blog of the blogosphere.

Netpolitique : DailyKos.com is one of the most influential political weblogs in the world. To give our European readers an idea, how big of an audience do you have on average?


Markos Moulitsas : Daily Kos gets between 600,000 and 700,000 visits every day, and that number grows by about about 5-10 percent every *week*. Now that includes multiple people visiting more than once a day, so it's hard to say how many individual people that includes. Nielsen ratings has me at 476,000 unique daily readers, but I don't quite trust their numbers.

As for geographic breakdowns, that's even harder to gauge. The vast
majority of my audience is obviously in the United States, but I do
have significant traffic from the Pacific Rim, Australia, and Europe.
In fact, there's a spinoff site from Daily Kos run by community
members based in Europe, called the European Tribune (www.eurotrib.com).


Netpolitique.net : Beyond day-to-day blogging, you're also actively involved in online campaigns for progressive causes and candidates. How do you go about mobilizing blogs and online communities, as in the case of the Paul Hackett's campaign for instance? Does it take a star blogger or can the netroots sprout spontaneously?

Markos Moulitsas : I don't generally lead. All of the campaigns that have grabbed notice in the past couple of years were launched by regular people, and I simply lent my support. I think it's important for people to realize that this is a new model of activism. The press and politicians still think it's a traditional model -- from top to bottom. So they come to me and think that by "reaching out" to me they can reach my audience. That's complete crap. It needs to be the exact opposite, they need to reach out to my audience. And if my audience decides its an endeavor worthy of support, *then* I'll get involved.

Much the same way with the press -- they think I'm somehow leading
all these efforts. So I get credit or blame for things I had nothing
to do with. They have a hard time understanding that netroots
activism bubbles up from the bottom. It's unlike anything in the
history of politics.

And that's why I love it so much. I don't have the pressure of being
everything to everyone. I don't have to lead every campaign, or act
as a gatekeeper over what should be supported and what shouldn't. I
simply wait back and see these campaigns emerge, and only jump aboard when they have built substantial grassroots support. And this teaches people to be active, not passive. It teaches them that they can, in fact, make a difference if they do the hard work. The old model -- the one were "leaders" made all such decisions -- taught people to be passive. Now, we're encouraging people to take matters into their own hands, rather than wait for someone else to take the lead.


Netpolitique.net
: You indicated that blogs have the potential to become "message- machines", as well as "organizing machines". Can you give us examples? If so, wouldn't this evolution make political parties irrelevant in the long run?

Markos Moulitsas : I won't predict the future of political parties, since I have no idea what the blogs and netroots will look like in a year, much less five or ten.

But yes, the blogs are best when used as a message machine, much like the Right has used talk radio and cable television to dominate the
national conversation in the United States. Rush Limbaugh alone reaches 30 million Americans every week, which means he speaks directly to about a third of all Republican voters. We have nothing
even remotely like that. The left hasn't had that sort of outlet for
its message ever. Now, we are creating it online.

That's why the blogosphere is so much more important for the Left
than it is for the Right. For conservatives, their blogs are merely
an extension of their vast message machine. For liberals, it's the
only way to get our message out.


Netpolitique.net : Last, but not least: our ritual question: what are your top 3 bookmarks?

Markos Moulitsas :

I've got four:

MyDD
www.mydd.com

Steve Gilliard
Stevegilliard.blogspot.com

Eschaton
atrios.blogspot.com

AMERICAblog
www.americablog.org


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